Posts Tagged ‘ThatWasMyKil’

Guilds and guild hopping; my humble views.

13/09/2011 4 comments

Today i’m going to talk about my experience in the Maplestory guild world.  I’ve been in a good number of guilds and noticed a few things that hold true for just about all of them.

Guilds are a lot different now after Big Bang.  They can level up, have skills that increase attack, speed, exp, etc.  I’m a fan of this for sure, it rewards guild loyalty which is great.  But it seems to have created a side effect that I am definitely not a fan of.  I’m of course talking about the hatred for guild hopping.  First let’s get one thing straight:

What really is guild hopping?

Guild hopping is something that seems to have a very ambiguous definition.  THis is the definition that I go by;

Guild hopping is willfully joining a guild with no intent on staying for any length of time, no matter what.

From what I have gathered over the last few months, this is the definition of guild hopping according to other people:

Guild hopping is leaving a guild for any reason whatsoever.  

First don’t get me wrong.  I am not a fan of guild hoppers.  In my opinion guild hopping is quite rude.  You’re basically using the guild without giving anything back.  The only problem is most people confuse guild hopping with someone who’s just trying to find the right guild.

It seems that once you join a guild, the leader expects you to stay forever, no matter what.  But what if you don’t like the guild?  What if you don’t get along with certain members? Or the alliance?  Well too bad because if you leave the guild, you are a guild hopper, and everyone knows that guild hoppers are the worst thing to happen to Maple ever, for all eternity.  This begs the question, How can you be expected to find the guild that fits you and what you want out of a guild in your first try?

There should be nothing wrong with joining a guild, giving it your best shot, and just deciding that it’s not what you’re looking for.  Leaving a guild in that situation should not get you the dreaded “Guild Hopper” title.  Unfortunately it seems to be the case.

Let me just get one thing straight here;

There is nothing wrong with joining a guild, giving it a few weeks, and leaving because it’s not the guild you want to be in.

Most guild leaders will have you believe otherwise.

Before joining my current guild, I did a lot of searching to find the one for me.  As such, I was given the horrible label of “Guild Hopper.”  People would see me and make comments on how “Oh you’re in a new guild, how cute.”  Well yes I am, because the other guild didn’t fit what I had in my head as the perfect guild for me.

If I had been leaving guilds after being in for a matter of hours then yes, I would be a guild hopper, but staying for a week or more should have some bearing on how people judge you.

By now you may be wondering, “But Doug, guilds have been around forever, and all this ‘guild hopping’ nonsense has just started to surface.”  Yes you are correct, and I believe I know the culprit behind all this.

The real reason why guild hopping is so frowned upon nowadays is simple:


Guilds now a days are so obsessed with their GP and levelling up.  On the flip side prospective guild members are too obsessed with guild level.  The problem with using GP as a guide to good and bad guilds is simple.  GP does not promote anything except staying online.  I have been in my current guild for 2 weeks, and am already rank 7 simply because I never log off. That’s not to say I’m not active, I do host and participate in runs, help out, etc.  The only problem is a lot of people don’t, they just leave their computer on and Voila!, they are top ten rank in the guild.

Now I’m not saying a GP system is bad.  Before Big Bang we had GP.  You earned it not by afking at your desk, but by earning it through GPQ, my personal favourite PQ.  It still didn’t mean much, but it was earned through teamwork, and helped build lots of friendships and guild trust.

Another problem with GP is that it is unrecoverable.  No longer can you kick someone for fun and add em back.  (We called those “Love taps”).  Another problem with that is when we were recruiting for alliance, we would send a jr to the other guild to join it, and scout it out before we added them to alliance.  But not anymore because heaven forbid we lose that precious GP.

I’m starting to get a little off track so I’m going to wrap this up.  Feel free to leave a comment on how many guilds YOU’VE been in.  My total is 7, with the final one being RedShift, which I now consider my home.  And again, if you want me to comment or write an entry on anything, inbox me or comment here, and I”ll see what i can do.  Thanks for reading!


The real deal behind being 19x

09/09/2011 3 comments

One of the most common things I hear from people these days, especially with LHC and Destroyed Henesys, is how easy it is to level.  Now don’t get me wrong, yes, levelling is a lot easier than before Big Bang, and even easier than after Big Bang, there is no denying that. I was around for the time when it took a couple of weeks to get to level 30, and getting 10%/hr at level 70 was considered fast.  Nowadays, 1-30 is a matter of hours, and 1-120 can be achieved in a week or so without having to sacrifice your social life.

All this changes once you reach level 192.

It’s seriously like flipping a switch.  The ratio of total exp needed to level has not changed since before Big Bang.  The total amount of exp gained from 1-188 is the same amount of exp that is needed to level from 188-200.  Let me just say that again so you can understand what it means.  The total amount of exp gained, combined from all the levels 1-188, is the same amount of exp needed to level from 188-200.

Don’t get me wrong, I flew through 1-170 in not too much time at all.  171-191 wasn’t too bad either, although I spent most, if not all of my Maple time grinding.  It never bothered me, I enjoy training and that’s how I met most of my close friends on the game.  It was grueling getting to 180, but it felt so rewarding.  180-190 was slow, but turning 19x felt so good.  190-191 wasn’t so bad either.  But then I turned 192, and the reality of what was going on really started to hit me.

Training at LHC on mostly non glitched maps, with hs, would get me anywhere between 12%-15%/hr, depending on the strength of my party.  Training at Dark Ereve (Cygnus Stronghold) would get me a whopping 25%-30%/hr.  Training was beautiful.  Then I turned the corner to level 192, and it felt like I rand straight into a brick wall.  My 12%/hr dropped to 3-4%/hr, with HS and a 18x+ party.  Stronghold training went from 25-30%/hr to a mere 8%/hr, again with a nice, pro party.  This was when I began to see the real struggle to get to 200, the home stretch.

Back to my main point I made in the beginning of the post, walking around towns or LHC would get me a few different responses from randoms that I came across. Most would ignore me, but the others were split into 3 distinct camps.  The first group of people are the kind that see a high level and just trolol about how I have no life, and how I bet I wish that I had a girlfriend like these guys, but that for a different post.  The other two would either be in complete awe of such a high levelled, godly (he HAS to be godly, he’s 19x!!11one!), and the other have which has the same catch phrase between all of them;

“You’re only so high because of Big Bang and LHC.”

Again, don’t get me wrong, I will be the first to admit that turning 200 in this day and age, does not compare to turning 200 before Big Bang.  However, that doesn’t diminish the feat.  190-191 took me 20 hours of grinding.  Each level after that has added 1-2hours onto that time.  As bad as before Big Bang?  Of course not.  Easy to do?  Of course not!   It still takes a lot of dedication and willpower to get through these last 10 levels.  You may see a lot of the blue level 200 notices, but for all the millions of players and characters out there, 3-4 max level notices a week is barely even a drop in the bucket.

To close out this rant I just want to end with this: Getting high level, although easier, is still no easy feat to do, so please respect the effort and time that goes into to getting this high.  And please stop with the “Do it before Big Bang” rhetoric.  If it was really that easy, you should be level 200, no?

And with that, thanks for reading, and as always, if there’s anything YOU would like to see me write about, drop me and inbox or leave me a comment, and I will respond as soon as I can!  At the time of posting this, I am level 195, 50.30%.