Posts Tagged ‘LHC’

LHC Training: Glitched vs Non-Glitched Maps

20/09/2011 3 comments

By now everyone is familiar with LHC training.  The majority of 110-200 is done here.   Remember the first time training there?  The exp gain/hour was unheard of.  Getting from 110-150 in a week was now common place.  50% extra exp per party member?  Nothing like this has ever been in GMS.  It was simply, awesome.  And as it goes for every new feature in GMS, the hackers had their way with it.

I remember the first time I saw a glitched map.  They started out only doing Crocky maps.  But my god, they went really overboard.  THe first map I saw had atleast 10 monsters per platform.  It was exp heaven.  I had no idea what was going on, and frankly, I didn’t give a crap.  As an unfunded 15x I was still levelling every hour.  I eventually learned that it was a hack.  This was a few months ago, and even with however many server checks and game updates there have been, they have not done anything to patch or fix this.  This begs the question: Is training on a glitched map legitimate or not?

You’ll find people in both camps.  There’ll be people who will not train if they can’t get a glitched map, and there’ll be people who will not train on a glitched map if their life depended on it.  Well, who’s right?

Obviously there is no right or wrong answer.  This isn’t a black and white issue, it is all about opinion, and that’s not something you can judge.  But since you are here, you get to listen to mine, so here we go!

I’ve never been a guy who makes too many demands while training.  I never -need- HS, I never demand a glitched map.  I have logged quite a few hours at glitched LHC maps, however.  I joined a guild recently that abosluetly abhorred glitched maps as well as anything involving hacking of any kind.  So while I was in the guild I stopped training on glitched maps, and it did feel a little more “legit” I suppose.

After I left that guild I re-evaluated my views on glitched maps and hacking.  I noticed a lot of similarities between glitched map training and other forms on the maple economy.

If you are of the belief that glitched maps are the devil, I will list some things here that you should also avoid, in the name of legitness, of course.

Bossing of any sort

Currently all bosses are glitched, and if you boss, you are exploiting that glitch, which if it doesn’t make you a hacker, makes you a dirty exploiter.  If you hit a boss fast enough and hard enough the boss just sits there, doing nothing. Some people defend this by saying that Nexon made it so if you do enough DPS you render the boss unable to attack.  Well I’m sorry, but that line of thinking is asinine.  There is no reason to put coding like that in the game on purpose.  This is another glitch that Nexon has failed to notice, or chosen to leave as it is.

Seriously, try a Chaos Zakum run.  If you’ve done it before Big Bang, you’ll remember a living hell full of seduce, 1/1, pot lock, dispelling, and zombify.  Czak was extremely hard back then, and only an elite few could conquer it.  Nowadays, the glitch is blindingly obvious.  Summon CZak and just sit there.  You can sit there for the whole timer if you want, because bosses don’t auto-agro anymore.  They wont attack you unless you attack them.  This allows you to pick off arms 1 or 2 at a time, you dirty exploiter.

So to be legit, make sure you stay away from bossing until they fix it!


You should also avoid buying or scrolling equips.  I’m talking about endgame here mostly.  Everyone knows that white scrolls are duped all day every day, so I don’t need to delve too deeply into that.  Its to the point to where I feel safe saying that 99% of the White Scrolls are duped, illegitamately obtained.  Hate training on a glitched map?  Better not scroll with hacked scrolls!

2h 50% pink scrolls are also duped by a lot, and don’t forget the event to obtain them was glitched, so using 2h50% scrolls is abusing a glitch! So make sure you stay away!

As recently as last week a large duping of GM scrolls started too.. So if you’re scrolling, you’d better use 10% and only White Scrolls that you get from Gachapan yourself!  All in the name of legitimacy of course.

Godly Equips

This ties into the previous section a little.  If the person you are buying the equip from didn’t self scroll it, there’s a good chance it was duped.  Especially if it is a godly item that common, or you see around a lot.  If it can be used my multiple classes look out!  It’s probably duped.  15% top/bottoms are duped often, so are perfect weapons.  Remember my method of legit self scrolling!

In conclusion, I do not condone hacking at all.  I do still train at glitched maps, however.  If you are of the belief that training on a glitched map is wrong, then by all means, don’t train there.  YOu are allowed to have an opinion and I am allowed to have a dissenting opinion.  I’m just connecting some dots and making some points.  This is just some food for thought, as always, thanks for reading, and stay tuned for more!


Guilds and guild hopping; my humble views.

13/09/2011 4 comments

Today i’m going to talk about my experience in the Maplestory guild world.  I’ve been in a good number of guilds and noticed a few things that hold true for just about all of them.

Guilds are a lot different now after Big Bang.  They can level up, have skills that increase attack, speed, exp, etc.  I’m a fan of this for sure, it rewards guild loyalty which is great.  But it seems to have created a side effect that I am definitely not a fan of.  I’m of course talking about the hatred for guild hopping.  First let’s get one thing straight:

What really is guild hopping?

Guild hopping is something that seems to have a very ambiguous definition.  THis is the definition that I go by;

Guild hopping is willfully joining a guild with no intent on staying for any length of time, no matter what.

From what I have gathered over the last few months, this is the definition of guild hopping according to other people:

Guild hopping is leaving a guild for any reason whatsoever.  

First don’t get me wrong.  I am not a fan of guild hoppers.  In my opinion guild hopping is quite rude.  You’re basically using the guild without giving anything back.  The only problem is most people confuse guild hopping with someone who’s just trying to find the right guild.

It seems that once you join a guild, the leader expects you to stay forever, no matter what.  But what if you don’t like the guild?  What if you don’t get along with certain members? Or the alliance?  Well too bad because if you leave the guild, you are a guild hopper, and everyone knows that guild hoppers are the worst thing to happen to Maple ever, for all eternity.  This begs the question, How can you be expected to find the guild that fits you and what you want out of a guild in your first try?

There should be nothing wrong with joining a guild, giving it your best shot, and just deciding that it’s not what you’re looking for.  Leaving a guild in that situation should not get you the dreaded “Guild Hopper” title.  Unfortunately it seems to be the case.

Let me just get one thing straight here;

There is nothing wrong with joining a guild, giving it a few weeks, and leaving because it’s not the guild you want to be in.

Most guild leaders will have you believe otherwise.

Before joining my current guild, I did a lot of searching to find the one for me.  As such, I was given the horrible label of “Guild Hopper.”  People would see me and make comments on how “Oh you’re in a new guild, how cute.”  Well yes I am, because the other guild didn’t fit what I had in my head as the perfect guild for me.

If I had been leaving guilds after being in for a matter of hours then yes, I would be a guild hopper, but staying for a week or more should have some bearing on how people judge you.

By now you may be wondering, “But Doug, guilds have been around forever, and all this ‘guild hopping’ nonsense has just started to surface.”  Yes you are correct, and I believe I know the culprit behind all this.

The real reason why guild hopping is so frowned upon nowadays is simple:


Guilds now a days are so obsessed with their GP and levelling up.  On the flip side prospective guild members are too obsessed with guild level.  The problem with using GP as a guide to good and bad guilds is simple.  GP does not promote anything except staying online.  I have been in my current guild for 2 weeks, and am already rank 7 simply because I never log off. That’s not to say I’m not active, I do host and participate in runs, help out, etc.  The only problem is a lot of people don’t, they just leave their computer on and Voila!, they are top ten rank in the guild.

Now I’m not saying a GP system is bad.  Before Big Bang we had GP.  You earned it not by afking at your desk, but by earning it through GPQ, my personal favourite PQ.  It still didn’t mean much, but it was earned through teamwork, and helped build lots of friendships and guild trust.

Another problem with GP is that it is unrecoverable.  No longer can you kick someone for fun and add em back.  (We called those “Love taps”).  Another problem with that is when we were recruiting for alliance, we would send a jr to the other guild to join it, and scout it out before we added them to alliance.  But not anymore because heaven forbid we lose that precious GP.

I’m starting to get a little off track so I’m going to wrap this up.  Feel free to leave a comment on how many guilds YOU’VE been in.  My total is 7, with the final one being RedShift, which I now consider my home.  And again, if you want me to comment or write an entry on anything, inbox me or comment here, and I”ll see what i can do.  Thanks for reading!

The real deal behind being 19x

09/09/2011 3 comments

One of the most common things I hear from people these days, especially with LHC and Destroyed Henesys, is how easy it is to level.  Now don’t get me wrong, yes, levelling is a lot easier than before Big Bang, and even easier than after Big Bang, there is no denying that. I was around for the time when it took a couple of weeks to get to level 30, and getting 10%/hr at level 70 was considered fast.  Nowadays, 1-30 is a matter of hours, and 1-120 can be achieved in a week or so without having to sacrifice your social life.

All this changes once you reach level 192.

It’s seriously like flipping a switch.  The ratio of total exp needed to level has not changed since before Big Bang.  The total amount of exp gained from 1-188 is the same amount of exp that is needed to level from 188-200.  Let me just say that again so you can understand what it means.  The total amount of exp gained, combined from all the levels 1-188, is the same amount of exp needed to level from 188-200.

Don’t get me wrong, I flew through 1-170 in not too much time at all.  171-191 wasn’t too bad either, although I spent most, if not all of my Maple time grinding.  It never bothered me, I enjoy training and that’s how I met most of my close friends on the game.  It was grueling getting to 180, but it felt so rewarding.  180-190 was slow, but turning 19x felt so good.  190-191 wasn’t so bad either.  But then I turned 192, and the reality of what was going on really started to hit me.

Training at LHC on mostly non glitched maps, with hs, would get me anywhere between 12%-15%/hr, depending on the strength of my party.  Training at Dark Ereve (Cygnus Stronghold) would get me a whopping 25%-30%/hr.  Training was beautiful.  Then I turned the corner to level 192, and it felt like I rand straight into a brick wall.  My 12%/hr dropped to 3-4%/hr, with HS and a 18x+ party.  Stronghold training went from 25-30%/hr to a mere 8%/hr, again with a nice, pro party.  This was when I began to see the real struggle to get to 200, the home stretch.

Back to my main point I made in the beginning of the post, walking around towns or LHC would get me a few different responses from randoms that I came across. Most would ignore me, but the others were split into 3 distinct camps.  The first group of people are the kind that see a high level and just trolol about how I have no life, and how I bet I wish that I had a girlfriend like these guys, but that for a different post.  The other two would either be in complete awe of such a high levelled, godly (he HAS to be godly, he’s 19x!!11one!), and the other have which has the same catch phrase between all of them;

“You’re only so high because of Big Bang and LHC.”

Again, don’t get me wrong, I will be the first to admit that turning 200 in this day and age, does not compare to turning 200 before Big Bang.  However, that doesn’t diminish the feat.  190-191 took me 20 hours of grinding.  Each level after that has added 1-2hours onto that time.  As bad as before Big Bang?  Of course not.  Easy to do?  Of course not!   It still takes a lot of dedication and willpower to get through these last 10 levels.  You may see a lot of the blue level 200 notices, but for all the millions of players and characters out there, 3-4 max level notices a week is barely even a drop in the bucket.

To close out this rant I just want to end with this: Getting high level, although easier, is still no easy feat to do, so please respect the effort and time that goes into to getting this high.  And please stop with the “Do it before Big Bang” rhetoric.  If it was really that easy, you should be level 200, no?

And with that, thanks for reading, and as always, if there’s anything YOU would like to see me write about, drop me and inbox or leave me a comment, and I will respond as soon as I can!  At the time of posting this, I am level 195, 50.30%.